. >> let's bring in dana telsy standing by and has more thoughts on this as well. we're just getting you on the phone. you're just hearing this news as we are. having watched what happened at jcpenney, is this a good development? >> the company needs stabilization. the key is getting through this back to school and christmas season in order to reinvigorate traffic, to bring people back in the stores, board room fights don't need to be played out on main driving sales should be the focus. anything that brings calm internally and externally is the right thing to do. >> what do you think about what jcpenney has in stores now. are they ready for the back to school season, will they be ready for the shopping season? >> i was just in chicago doing my shopping tour yesterday and they're ready for back to school, back to school signs are all over, traffic was a little bit better than we have seen there in the past. but the arizona jeans are out. and now it is getting the customers in the door. >> and just in terms of traffic, how does that match up with where jcpenney was